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Отличная статья в Washington Post про последнее открытие вице-президента в области конституционного законодательства.

Re: Очевидное -- невероятное

Date: 2007-06-28 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leblon.livejournal.com
Конституция-то не вчера была написана. За время, прошедшее с ее написания, мы имели возможность видеть, как именно функционирует вице-президентство. Самое смешное, конечно, даже не это, а то, что еще совсем недавно Чейни ссылался на факт своей принадлежности к исполнительной власти, как на нечто само собой разумеющееся. А потом вдруг прозрел. Да что я буду повторять хорошо известные вещи; если вы посление семь лет не следили за американской политикой (в чем я сомневаюсь :)), то вот ссылка на блог The Volokh conspiracy (http://volokh.com/posts/1182729380.shtml). Обратите внимание на комменты.
From: [identity profile] clovis3.livejournal.com
Уважаемый Leblon,

Извините за длинную цитату из Вашей ссылки:
I agree that the modern Vice Presidency, the Vice President is part of the Executive. However, that has not always been the case. In the past, most Vice Presidents spent their time presiding over the Senate and had little, if any influence on the President.

The modern Vice Presidency, for most purposes, dates back barely 30 years, to Jimmy Carter and his willingness to include Walter Mondale as a Senior Advisor--something foreign to Vice Presidents Rockefeller, Ford, Agnew, etc. going all the way back to Adams.

Historically, the one possible exception was Vice President Martin van Buren, who was a trusted political crony of Andrew Jackson's before becoming Vice President.

In the Constitution, the Vice President is expressly mentioned in Article 1, Section 3, which clearly makes the Vice President an officer of the Senate; Article 2, Sections 1, which involves electing the President and Vice President as well as Presidential succession, and Section 4, which involves impeachment.

The 12th Amendment yoked the election of the President and Vice President (interestingly, the language of the Amendment called for separate ballots for the offices of "President" and "Vice President" but then instructed the "President of the Senate" to conduct the Electoral College canvass).

The 25th Amendment allows the President to name a new Vice President (a la Ford and Rockefeller) and allows the Vice President to serve as Acting President under limited circumstances (the circumstances depending on whether it is with or without the consent of the President).

The bottom line, IMHO, is that when the Vice President is acting as a Senior Advisor to the President, then the Vice President is acting as an Executive Officer. On the other hand, when the Vice President is performing his duties as President of the Senate, then he is acting as an officer of the Legislative Branch.

Во всяком случае, мне кажется, что данный вопрос совсем не так очевиден, как его пытается представить "юморист" из Washington Post.
From: [identity profile] leblon.livejournal.com
Я Вам отвечу еще одной цитатой из того же блога:

I'd find the "officer of the Senate" claim at least plausible and interesting, if it were made consistently and not in a transparently bad-faith post-hoc way.

Т.е. когда Чейни удобно считать себя исполнительной властью, он - исполнительная власть, а когда удобнее быть законодателем, он - законодатель. Грубо, очень грубо.
По принципу "закон - что дышло, куда повернешь - туда и вышло". К счастью, тут не Россия, а Америка.

Цитатой на цитату

Date: 2007-06-28 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] clovis3.livejournal.com
Уважаемый Leblon,

А я Вам на это отвечу другой цитатой оттуда же:
Personally, I hold the view that the Vice President is a legislative officer when acting as President of the Senate and an executive officer the rest of the time.

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